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London Ancestors John Hankin and Mary Ann Townsend

John Hatfield Hankin was born C1800 in Hertford, Hertfordshire although the 1851 census lists his birth place as Norfolk. Perhaps the census enumerator mixed up his place of birth with his mother in law’s. I believe he was christened at St Andrews Church, Hertford 26th Jan 1800 his parents listed as Joseph and Sarah Hankin.

His marriage banns were called 11th July 1824 at St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey and he married Mary Ann Townsend on the 1st August 1824. Both were ‘of this parish’ and signed by their mark. John was listed as a bachelor and Mary as a spinster.

They had 4 children:
1. Mary Ann Hankin, born c1826, bp 23.08.1826 St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, married Edward Epps 28.12.1845, Holy Trinity, Newington, Surrey. Died 3.11.1907 East Dulwich, Surrey.

2.  John James Hankin, born c1829, bp 31.05.1829 St John the Evangelist, Lambeth , died July 1829 Lambeth.

3. Amelia Ann Hankin (my 3rd great grandmother) born c1830, bp. 4th July 1830 St John the Evangelist, Lambeth. Amelia married William Harrison 5th May 1850 Holy Trinity, Newington, Surrey and died in 19.07.1909 Ashford, Kent.

4. William Hankin, born c1831 Lambeth and was buried in St John the Evangelist 8th Jan 1832.

Mary Ann Townsend (my 4th great grandmother) died in 1832 in Lambeth, she was only 27, perhaps she died due to complications with child birth given that her son William Hankin was buried not long before Mary. Or perhaps there was an illness. Marys father James Townsend also died in Lambeth in 1832 (April).

Whilst researching my 3rd great grandmother I came accross an auction site listing a 19th century pictorial & verse sampler by Amelia Ann Hankin, aged 13 in 1843. Amelia was born in 1830 and lost her mother aged 2. The embroidered verse reads:

To the Motherless
When on the bed of death
My mother laid her head
To me with her expiring breath
These words of love she said
My child I soon must leave
Lifes rough and thorny road
But never for my departure grieve
I go to dwell with God

Amelia Ann Hankin her work finished in the 13 year of her age 1843

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James Hatfield Hankin and Mary Ann Townsend residence:
1826:
James St, Lambeth, Surrey (Source: Mary Ann Hankin baptism cert which lists James as a Labourer)

1830:
Charles St, Lambeth, Surrey (Source: Amelia Ann Hankin baptism cert, lists James Hankin as a labouer)

1832:
Roberts Place, Lambeth, Surrey (Souce: Mary Ann Townsend burial cert)

1841:
Kings Place, Crosby Row, Bermondsey (Source: 1841 census)

Class: HO107; Piece: 1047; Book: 3; Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey; County: Surrey; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 33; Page: 24; Line: 8; GSU roll: 474649.
1. Ann Townsend, age 60, Laundress
2. Elizabeth Townsend, age 15
3. John Hankin, age 40, Labourer
4. Mary Hankin, age 14
5. Amelia A Hankin, age 10
All born in the county

1851-1861:
3 Little Charlotte Row, Bermondsey (Source: 1851-1861 census)

1851 Census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1562; Folio: 146; Page: 4; GSU roll: 174795.
1. Mrs Townsend (Head) widow, age 72, Laundress, born Hertford
2. John Hankin (Son) widow, age 52, Labourer, born Norfolk
3. Elizabeth Townsend (Daughter) age 27, Laundress, born Lambeth, Surrey
1861 Census: Class: RG 9; Piece: 325; Folio: 26; Page: 46; GSU roll: 542615.
1. John Hankin (Head) widow, age 62, Labourer, born Hertford, Hertfordshire
2. Ann Townsend (Mother) widow, age 84, Formerly Laundress, born Norwich, Norfolk
3. Mary Ann Epps (Grand Daughter) age 14, born Newington, Surrey
4. Martha Palmer (Neice) age 22, Ironer, born Bermondsey, Surrey

Researching the family history – Be careful what you go looking for!

Old opera glasses / binosI dressed up like a pirate recently, as part of the costume I wore my grandads old binos. A guy told me they were opera glasses. I laughed at him because there’s no way my grandad was into opera. So I googled them, and he’s right. I found similar looking pairs online from the early 1900’s. So I wonder if they belonged to his grandfather. Henry Thomas Fuller. My dad remembers these binos from when he was a kid so my grandad must have had them a while.

Thing is, after doing the family history research, I can’t help but wonder if these opera glasses were part of the ‘theatrical items’ stolen by Henry Thomas Fuller in 1906? I hope not! …but it’d be quite fitting for a pirate to be wearing swag round their neck! Perhaps I should be careful what I go looking for!

Maria Harcour born in Bombay 1811

So! Summer has been busy and I haven’t posted for a while. It’s been 6 months since I made a start with the blog and I’ve already made contact with a couple of awesome cousins! Turns out I’m not the only one puzzled by Maria Harcour!

Maria was born in Bombay in 1811 and married a shrimper from Margate in 1829. We haven’t been able to find a birth certificate for Maria and know nothing of her siblings or parents.

There’s an  entry in the 1841 census for Marias 10 year old daughter Mary Christina Edwards (sometimes just known as Christiana) which might hold clues or false leads!:
At the top of the census page is:

1. Ann Peg(d?)ine age 50, Independent means, born in the county. b 1791
2. Mary Gibson, age 75, Independent means, born in foreign parts. b1766
3. Christiana Edwards, age 10, female, born in the county. I think the mark in the employment column is F.S meaning (female servant).

Mary Christianna Edwards 1841 Census, Bullers Court, Margate
I wonder if Mary Gibson could be Marias widowed mother seeing as Maria named her first born Mary and Mary Gibson was also noted as born in foreign parts on the census?
Perhaps Ann Peg(d?)ine is Marias older widowed sister? Maria gave 3 of her girls the middle name of Ann so the name must have been important to her.

Or perhaps its just a coincidence and Mary Christiana is the servant not a family member?

Double strokes // are used to indicate the end of the list of people living in a dwelling, single / ones are used to divide different households sharing the dwelling. It looks like Ann and Mary are living in one dwelling and Christiana is noted as same dwelling different household? So I think this would suggest she is not part of the family?

The house is ‘Bullers Court’ Margate.
Family Search says the address is ‘High St Buller’s Court’ and is an institution.

I think this is a picture of it: Margate History, Facebook
In 1793, John Lewis (a historian) stated that Buller’s Court was often referred to as the ‘Parish Yard’ and was used as a refuge for old ladies.

A forum post on Curious Fox references Bullers Court as: alms houses at 99 high street margate for needy widows

…..off to do some more research!

Thomas Fuller and Mary Ann Overton

Thomas Fuller was born 3rd Sept 1795 to Robert Fuller and Jane Ann Bachell and baptised 4th Oct 1795 at St John’s, Margate.

Thomas was a Mariner in the Merchant Navy and first went to sea as an apprentice in 1811. His Merchant Seaman Record gives the following info:
No of: 76052.
Register Ticket: 50.
Age when Ticketed: 49.
Name: Thomas Fuller,
Born at: Margate, County of Kent, 4th day of Sept 1795.
Capacity: Seaman.
Height: 5ft 4 3/4 inches.
Hair: Dk Brown.
Eyes: Dark Brown.
Complexion: Dark.
Marks: Not any.
First went to sea as: Apprentice.
In the Year: 1811.
Can Write: Yes.
Has served in the Royal Navy: No.
Has been in Foreign Service: No.
When unemployed, resides at: Margate.
Issued at: Ramsgate, 21st day of Dec 1844.

On the 27th Nov 1819, Thomas married Mary Ann Overton at St John the Baptist Church in Margate.

On the marriage record; Thomas is noted as a batchelor and Mary Ann as a spinster. They were married by banns, Thomas signed his name and Mary signed by her mark. The marriage witnesses were:
Stephen Cook and Richard Mummery. I think Richard Mummery must have been a Parish Clerk as his name appears a lot in the records as a marriage witness.

Mary Ann Overton was born in Hoo nr Chatham, Kent c1797. Mary was baptised on the 3rd Sept 1797 at Saint Werburgh, Hoo, Kent and her parents were given as Charles Overton and Mary.

Thomas and Mary had the following children:

  1. Elizabeth Ann Fuller, born c1820, Margate, Kent, bp 2nd July 1820, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’
  2. Charles Francis Fuller, born 9th Sept 1822, Margate, Kent, bp 13th Oct 1822, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’ He died 6th Jan 1857.
  3. Thomas Fuller, born 21st Dec 1824, Margate bp 30th Jan 1825, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’
  4. Richard Robert Fuller, born c1827, Margate, bp 11th Feb 1827, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’
  5. James William Fuller, born c1829, Margate, bp 2nd Nov 1829, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’
  6. Robert William Fuller, born c1832, Margate, bp 26th Feb 1832, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’ he died 1847, Margate.
  7. William Francis Fuller, born c1834, Margate, bp 23rd Nov 1834,
  8. George Fuller, born 7th Jan, 1842, Margate, bp 25th Sept 1842, father’s profession given as ‘Mariner’

Around 1835-1836 Thomas Fuller’s Merchant Navy record gives the following info:
Source: www.findmypast.com
First name(s):    THOMAS
Last name:    Fuller
Age:    40
Birth year:    1795
Birth place:    Margate
Birth county:    Kent
Place:    MARGATE
Date range:    1835-1836
Series:    BT120
Piece number:    2
Record set:    Merchant Navy Seamen
Category:    Education & work
Record collection:    Merchant navy & maritime
Collections from:    Great Britain
No: 6655
Quality: Mariner
Ship belonging to: Magnet of London

In 1841 the family was shown living at White Hart Court, Margate which was on the High St:
White Hart Court, Margate 1841 census

  1. Thomas Fuller, age 45, Mariner, born Kent.
  2. Mary Fuller, age 40, born Kent.
  3. Elizabeth Fuller, age 20, born Kent.
  4. Charles Fuller, age 15, born Kent
  5. Thomas Fuller, age 15, born Kent.
  6. Richard Fuller, age 14, born Kent.
  7. James Fuller, age 12, born Kent.
  8. Robert Fuller, age 9, born Kent.
  9. William Fuller, age 6, born Kent.

Thomas died in 1848 and was buried 1st Nov 1848 in St John’s, Margate.

Mary, now widowed continued to live at White Hart Court, the 1851 census gives the following info:

1 White Hart Court Margate 1851 census:
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1629; Folio: 200; Page: 10; GSU roll: 193530.
1. Mary Fuller, Head, Widow, age 54, Charwoman, born Rochester, Kent.
2. Elizabeth Ann Fuller, Daughter, unmarried, age 30, Shoebinder, born Margate, Kent.
3. Richard Fuller, Son, unmarried, age 24, Porter, born Margate, Kent.
4. James Fuller, Son, unmarried, age 31, ‘?’ born Margate, Kent.
5. William Fuller, Son, unmarried, age 17, Baker, born Margate, Kent.
6. George Fuller, Son, age 9, Scholar, born Margate, Kent.

1 and 2 White Hart Court margate 1861 census:
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 534; Folio: 62; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542656.

No 1 White Hart Court, Margate:
1. Mary Fuller, Head, Widow, age 65, Laundress, born Hoo – nr Chatham
2. John Fuller, Son, unmarried, age 30, Porter, born Margate, Kent

Mary’s son Richard lived next door with his family:
No 2 White Hart Court, Margate:

  1. Richard Fuller, Head, Married, age 33, Labourer,  born Margate, Kent
  2. Ann Fuller, Wife, age 29, born Margate, Kent
  3. Thomas Fuller, Son, age 5, Scholar, born Margate.
  4. Eliza Fuller, Daughter, age 3, Scholar, born Margate
  5. William Fuller, Son, age 8 months, born Margate

1 and 2 White Hart Court margate 1871 census:
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 991; Folio: 94; Page: 23; GSU roll: 838723.
1 White Hart Court:

  1. Mary Fuller, Head, Widow, age 74, Former Laundress, born Kent.
  2. George Fuller, Son, married, age 28, Upholsterer, born Margate, Kent.
  3. Eliza Fuller, Daughter-in-law, married, age 27,  born Romford, Essex.
  4. George Fuller, Grandson, age 7 months, born Margate, Kent.

2 White Hart Court:

  1. Richard Fuller, Head, married, age 44, Bath Chair Driver, born Margate, Kent.
  2. Ann Fuller, Wife, age 40, Laundress, born Margate, Kent.
  3. Thomas R Fuller, Son, age 15, Linen Drapers Porter, born Margate, Kent.
  4. Eliza Fuller, Daughter, age 14, Scholar, born Margate, Kent.
  5. William H Fuller, Son, age 10, Scholar, born Margate, Kent.
  6. George Fuller, Son, age 7, Scholar, born Margate, Kent.
  7. James Fuller, Son, age 5, Scholar, born Margate, Kent.
  8. Caroline Fuller, Daughter, age 2, born Margate, Kent.
  9. Charles H Fuller, Son, age 1 month, born Margate, Kent.

Mary Ann Fuller nee Overton died in 1877 and was buried in the  Parish of St John, Thanet age 82 years on the 3rd March 1877.

Links:
Research guide C13: The Merchant Navy: Tracing merchant seamen.
British Mercantile, Whaling and Fishing Records of the 19th & 20th Centuries by Len Barnett
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Merchant Navy – Registers of Seamen/Service (Seamen)
Margate, Kent genealogy, local and family history resources

William Harrison a Coach Trimmer in Ashford and Amelia Hankin from Lambeth

William Harrison I believe was born 16th May 1819 in Bury, Lancashire and baptised 13th June 1819 at St Marys, Bury. On his baptism record his parents were given as: Thomas Harrison (a Servant man) and Mary from Woodhill in the county of Lancaster. (Reference Number: L215, Item Number: 1, Archive Roll: 671).

On the 5th May 1850 he married Amelia Ann Hankin:
Marriage solemnized at Trinity Church in the parish of St Mary Newington in the county of Surrey.
William Harrison of full age bachelor.
Profession: Coach Maker.
Residence: Swan St.
Father: Thomas Harrison deceased.
Spouse: Amelia Ann Hankin of full age spinster.
Residence: Swan St.
Fathers name: John Hankin Labourer.
Married after banns.
Witnessed by John Harrison (Signed by his mark) and Elizabeth Townsend (signed by her mark) Elizabeth may have been Amelia’s Aunt.
(London Metropolitan Archives, Holy Trinity, Newington, Register of marriages, P92/TRI, Item 022.)

William and Amelia went on to have 14 children:
1. William John Harrison, born 1850, Willesborough, Kent, bp. 29th Dec 1850 in Ashford, Kent. (So at the time of William and Amelia’s marriage, Amelia was already pregnant.)
2. Thomas Harrison, born c1852, Ashford, bp. 3rd Sept 1854, Willesborough, Kent.
3. Robert Harrison, born c1854, Ashford, bp. 3rd Sept 1854, Willesborough, Kent.
4. George Harrison, born c1855, Willesborough, bp. 7th Sept 1856, Willesborough, Kent.
5. Samuel Harrison, born c1856, Willesborough, bp 7th Sept 1856, Willesborough, Kent, died 1858.
6. Richard Alfred Harrison, born c1858, Ashford, bp. 7th Feb 1858, Willesborough, Kent.
7. Albert Henry Harrison, born c1860, Ashford, bp. 1st Jan 1860, Willesborough, Kent.
8. Frederick Holmes Harrison, born 4th April 1862 Ashford, bp. 3rd Aug 1862, Willesborough, Kent.
9. Amelia Elizabeth Harrison, born c1864, Ashford, bp. 5th June 1864, Willesborough, Kent. (Finally a girl! Thank goodness as she was my 2nd great grand mother!)
10. Mary Ann Harrison, born c1866, Ashford, Kent.
11. Rosetta Harrison, born c1867, Ashford, Kent, bp. 27th Oct 1867, Ashford, Kent.
12. Alice Harrison, born c1871, Ashford, Kent, bp. 7th Nov 1871, Ashford, Kent.
13. Samuel Holmes Harrison, born c1871, Ashford, b.p 7th Nov 1871, Ashford, Kent.
14. Arthur Harrison, born c1874, Ashford, bp 12th Sept 1874, Willesborough, Kent.

In 1851 the census notes the family living at 99 New town in the Parish of Willesborough.
1. William Harrison, Head, Married, age 31, Coach Trimmer, born Bury, Lancashire.
2. Amelia Harrison, Wife, age 41?, born Lambeth, Surrey.
3. William John Harrison, Son, age 4 months, born Alfred Town, Willesborough, Kent.

By 1850 over 130 houses had been built in the area for staff by the South Eastern Railway. The railway called this area ‘Alfred Town’, known as ‘New Town’ by everybody else. The works employed about 600 people in 1851 increasing to about 950 by 1861, and around 1,300 by 1882. A carriage and wagon works was opened on an adjacent 32-acre (13 ha) site in 1850. (Source Wikipedia)

In 1861 the census shows the family still living at 99 New Town, Willesborough:
1. William Harrison (Head) age 41, Coach Trimmer, born Bury, Lancashire.
2. Amelia Harrison (Wife) age 31, born Lambeth, Surrey.
3. William J Harrison (Son) age 10, Scholar, born Kent, Ashford.
4. Thomas Harrison (Son) age 9, Scholar, born Kent, Ashford.
4. Robert Harrison (Son) age 7, Scholar, born Kent, Ashford.
5. George Harrison (Son) age 6, Scholar, born Kent, Ashford.
6. Richard A Harrison (Son) age 3, Scholar, born Kent, Ashford.
7. Albert H Harrison (Son) age 1, born Kent, Ashford.
Class: RG 9; Piece: 515; Folio: 70; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542653.

In 1871 the census shows the family had moved next door to 100 New Town:
1. William Harrison (Head) age 51, Coach Trimmer, born Bury, Lancashire.
2. Amelia Ann Harrison (Wife) age 41, born Lambeth, Surrey.
3. William John Harrison (Son) unmarried, age 20 (occupation hard to read..possibly ‘Turner’) born Willesborough, Kent.
4. Thomas Harrison (Son) unmarried, age 19, Coach Maker, born Willesborough, Kent.
5. Robert Harrison (Son) Unmarried, age 17, Coach Maker born Willesborough, Kent.
6. George Harrison (Son) age 16, Coach Trimmer, born Willesborough, Kent.
7. Richard Harrison (Son) age 13, Scholar, born Willesborough, Kent.
8. Albert Harrison (Son) age 11, Scholar, born Willesborough, Kent.
9. Fred H Harrison (Son) age 8, Scholar, born Willesborough, Kent.
10 Amelia Eliz Harrison (Daughter) age 6, Scholar, born Willesborough, Kent.
11. Mary Ann Harrison (Daughter age 5, Scholar, born Willesborough, Kent.
12. Rosella Harrison (Daughter) age 3, Scholar, born Willesborough, Kent.
13. Alice Harrison (Daughter) age 1, born Willesborough, Kent.
Class: RG10; Piece: 961; Folio: 114; Page: 43; GSU roll: 827248.

1881 Census, still at the same address: 100 Newtown:
1. William Harrison (Head) age 61, Coach Trimmer, born Bury, Lancashire.
2. Amelia Ann Harrison (Wife) age 51, born Lambeth, Surrey.
3. Thomas Harrison (Son) unmarried, age 29, Coach Builder, born Ashford, Kent.
4. Richard Harrison (Son) unmarried age 23, Coach Builder, born Ashford, Kent.
5. Albert Harrison (Son) unmarried age 21, Coach Trimmer, born Ashford, Kent.
6. Frederick H Harrison (Son) unmarried age 18, Coach Builders Apprentice, born Ashford, Kent.
7 Amelia E Harrison (Daughter)age 16, Dressmaker, born Ashford, Kent.
8. Mary Ann Harrison (Daughter age 15, Dressmaker, born Ashford, Kent.
9. Rosa Harrison (Daughter) age 13, Scholar, born Ashford, Kent.
10. Alice Harrison (Daughter) age 11, Scholar, born Ashford, Kent.
11.Samuel Harrison (Son) age 9, Scholar, born Ashford, Kent.
12. Arthur Harrison (Son) age 7, Scholar, born Ashford, Kent.
Source Information: Family History Library Film 1341226, Public Records Office Reference RG11, Piece / Folio 0950 / 117, Page Number 9.

1891 Census: 100 Newtown, Willesborough
1. William Harrison (Head) age 71, Foreman Trimmer SER, born Bury, Lancashire.
2. Amelia A Harrison (Wife) age 61, born Lambeth, Surrey.
3. Samuel H Harrison (Son) single, age 19, Turner S.E.R, born Willesboro’ Kent.
4. Arthur Harrison (Son) single, age 17, Coach Maker, S.E.R, born Willesboro’ Kent.
5. Mary A Harrison (Daughter) single, age 24, Carriage Lining Maker S.E.R, born Willesboro’ Kent.
6. Alice Harrison (Daughter) single, age 21, Carriage Lining Maker S.E.R, born Willesboro’ Kent.
Class: RG12; Piece: 702; Folio: 70; Page: 8; GSU Roll: 6095812.

1901 Census: 100 Newtown, Willesborough
1. William Harrison (Head) age 81, Living on means, born Bury, Lancashire.
2. Amelia A Harrison (Wife) age 71, born Lambeth, London.
3. Arthur Harrison (Son) single, age 27, Coach Maker, born Ashford, Kent.
4. Alice Harrison (Daughter) single, age 30, Lining Maker for Carriages, born Ashford, Kent.
5. Hesta? Smith (Grandson) age 4, born Deal, Kent.
Class: RG13; Piece: 786; Folio: 47; Page: 31.

William Harrison passed away 12th Feb 1906 in East Ashford and was buried 17th Feb 1906 in Ashford. Probate was granted 25th April 1906 to his daughter Alice Harrison, William was noted as an Ashford, Kent railway factory foreman. (Source: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 [database on-line])

Willesborough & Ashford history links:
Ashford, Kent genealogy, local and family history resources.

Ashford Railway Works: Local Industries and Farming.
Photos of Ashford Railway Works.
Willesborough, Kent (A Vision of Britain website).
Willesborough (Wikipedia).
The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 7. Originally published by W Bristow, Canterbury, 1798, entry for Willesborough.
The Willesborough civic war memorial: Info on those that died during the 1st World War (opens as PDF).
Francisfrith.com: Willesborough in old photos.
New Mill, Willesborough: Grade II listed smock mill, built in 1869.
Guide to South Willesborough, Kent: Ancestry, family history, and genealogy.

Charles Francis Fuller, Mariner from Margate and the Lugger the Victory

Charles Francis Fuller was born 9th Sept 1822 in Margate, Kent (according to his Merchant Seamans record). He was baptised in the Parish of St Johns, Margate 13th Oct 1822. His parents were given as Thomas and Mary Fuller of Margate and his fathers profession was listed as ‘Mariner’.

In 1841 the census shows the family at White Hart Court in Margate:
1. Thomas Fuller, age 45, Mariner
2. Mary Fuller, age 40
3. Elizabeth Fuller, age 20
4. Charles Fuller, age 15
5. Thomas Fuller, age 15
6. Richard Fuller, age 14
7. James Fuller, age 12
8. Robert Fuller, age 9
9. William Fuller, age 6

On October 22nd 1843 banns of Marriage were called at the Parish Church of Ash, Kent between “Charles Francis Fuller of this Parish, Bachelor and Mary Jane Spratt of this Parish, Spinster.”

I think Mary was from Ash and I found the following baptism in the Parish of Ash nr Sandwich, Kent:
June 7th 1818:  Mary Jane, daughter of John and Mary Spratt, Abode: Ash, Fathers Profession: Labourer.

Charles and Mary went on to have the following children:
1. Henry Thomas Fuller, born 1843, Ash, Kent.
2. Mary Jane Fuller, born 1847, Thanet, Kent.
3. Thomas Charles Fuller, born 1850, Medway, Kent. Died 1896, buried in the Parish of St John, Thanet, October 6th 1896, age 46 years, abode: Thanet Union.
4. John C Fuller, born Margate c1850-1854 (according to census records).
5. Thomas Robert Fuller, born Margate c1852.
6.  Robert J Fuller, born Margate c1852-1861 (I think 1856).
7. Charles Fuller, born Margate, c1857

In 1844 Charles Merchant Navy Record gave the following details:
No of 115,425
Charles Francis Fuller
Age in 1845: 23
Age when Ticketed: 22
Can write: Yes
Born at: Margate, Kent 9th Sept 1822
Height: 5ft 4
Complexion: Fair
Marks: Pock Marked
Hair: Dark Brown
Eyes: Dark Blue
First went to sea as: a boy in the year 1834
Has served in the Royal Navy: No
Has been in Foreign Service: No
When unemployed resides at: Margate
Issued at: Ramsgate, 28th day of Dec 1844

(Date range 1845-1854, Series BT113, Piece number 58, Record set Merchant Navy Seamen, Category Education & work, Record collection Merchant navy & maritime, Collections from Great Britain.)

In the 1851 census the family were living at Princes Court, King St, Margate:
1. Chs Fns Fuller, Head, married, age 28, Mariner, born Margate, Kent.
2. Mary June Fuller, Wife, Married, age 28, Mariners Wife, born Ash, Kent. (NB I think her middle name was misspelled)
3. Henry Thoms Fuller, Son, age 7, Scholar, born Ash, Kent
4. Mary June Fuller, Daugh, age 4, at home, born Margate, Kent
5. Thomas Charles Fuller, Son, age 1, born Margate, Kent.
(1851 Census: HO 107/1629, Folio 359, Page 7, Parish of St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent.)

On the 6th January 1857 Charles was killed in the English Channel whilst on the Lugger the Victory, which went to save the American ship the Northern Belle. Nine men were lost when the Victory capsized:

From the Standard, Monday 12th Jan 1857:
The Victory Lugger, a well known boat to many Margate visitors, which was lost last Monday night, was worth from 300/. to 400/. The following is a list of the names of a portion of the crew: Issac Solly, aged 46; John Smith, aged 63; George Smith, aged 29 (father and son); William Emptage, aged 52; John Emptage, aged 29 (father and son); Charles Fuller, aged 34; Henry Paramor, aged 27; Frederick Batt, aged 22; Abraham Busbridge aged 35.

Subscriptions in aid of these poor men’s widows ad orphans are urgently solicited.

From the Kentish Gazette:
American ship ‘Northern Belle’ of 1,100 tons burthen, from New York, seen to be in eminent peril, and which afterwards stranded on the Foreness Rock, was caught in a fearful sea, and plunged down in an instant with all her crew. the suferers were:
John Smith, aged 63 years.
George Smith, aged 29
William Emptage, aged 52
John Emptage, aged 29
Issac Solly, aged 46
Abraham Bashbridge, aged 35
Charles Fuller, aged 34
Henry Paramor, aged 27
Frederick Batt, aged 22

“Such a calamity as this is not known to have occurred here before; may such never occur again. This tablet is also intended as a grateful tribute to the benevolence of persons, not only in this town and neighborhood, but in London and other distant places, who have so generously responded to the public appeal made in behalf of the widows and orphans, and have, by subscriptions, amounting to two thousand one hundred pounds, declared their sympathy with a class of men engaged in a most important but adventurous avocation. “Whoso is wise will ponder these things.”

Links:
The shipwreck of the Northern Belle and the loss of the Victory.
The Wrecking of the Northern Belle, an article by Mick Twyman published by the Margate Historical Society in December 2001.

A new plaque unveiled in tribute to the men who died on the Victory.
Article from the Isle of Thanet Gazette.
Dedication Service of the Victory Lugger Memorial Stone at Margate.
A letter regarding subscriptions to the widows and orphans affected by the sinking.
A Boatmans Tales, article about the sinking of the Northern Belle.
Newspaper article from The Perth Gazette and Independent Journal of Politics and News (WA : 1848 – 1864).
Margate, Kent genealogy and family history resources

 

Henry Thomas Fuller – General dealer or just a general rogue?

Henry Thomas Fuller was born in 1843 in Ash, Kent to Charles Francis Fuller and Mary Jane Spratt. His birth was registered in the Eastry registration district  (which Ash was a part of between 1837-1941.)

At the time of the 1851 census Henry lived in Princes Court, King St, Margate:

1. Chs Fns Fuller, Head, married, age 28, Mariner, born Margate, Kent.
2. Mary June Fuller, Wife, Married, age 28, Mariners Wife, born Ash, Kent. (NB I think her middle name was misspelled)
3. Henry Thoms Fuller, Son, age 7, Scholar, born Ash, Kent
4. Mary June Fuller, Daugh, age 4, at home, born Margate, Kent
5. Thomas Charles Fuller, Son, age 1, born Margate, Kent.
(1851 Census: HO 107/1629, Folio 359, Page 7, Parish of St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent.)

In 1853 when Henry was 14 he lost his father who died on the Lugger the Victory, which went to save the American ship the Northern Belle. This left Henry as the the eldest child of 7 siblings. See blog post.

The 1861 census lists Henry at Church St, Margate:

1. Jane Fuller, Widow, age 40, Laundress, born Margate, Kent.
2. Henry Fuller, Son, unmarried, age 18, Labourer, born Margate, Kent.
3. Mary Fuller, Daugh, unmarried, age 14, born Margate.
4. John Fuller, Son, age 9, born Margate.
5. Thomas Fuller, Son, age 9 born Margate.
6. Robert Fuller, Son, age 9, born Margate.
7. Charles Fuller, Son, age 4, born Margate.
(RG9, Piece: 534, Folio: 41, Page: 6, Parish of St Johns, Margate.)

In 1868 he married Elizabeth Ann Edwards in Thanet. I believe Elizabeth already had an illegitimate daughter called Sarah Jane Edwards born 1866 in Thanet and baptised 15.7.1866 at St John the Baptist Church, Margate.

Sarah Jane can be seen staying with Elizabeth’s sister Mary Christiana Edwards (who had then married and was known as ‘Christiana Batchelor’) in 1871. Sarah Jane Edwards was listed as her niece age 4.

Henry and Elizabeth had the following children:

  1. William Henry Thomas Fuller, bp 3.3.1869 St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession: Labourer, abode: Margate; buried 9.3.1869 aged 2 1/2 months. NB The baptism was a private baptism which often meant the baptism of a person  (adult or infant) who might die before being able to attend the church for a public baptism.
  2. Sarah Ann Fuller, b. 25.6.1875  bp 3.10.1875 St John the Baptist Church, Margate.
  3. Elizabeth Maria Fuller, b. 21.11.1877 Thanet, bp. 4.11.1881 St John the Baptist Church. Margate, fathers profession: Labourer, abode: Victoria Rd, Margate (Elizabeth was baptised at same time as her sister Bertha).
  4. Bertha Agnes Fuller, b. 1881 Thanet, bp. 4.11.1881 St John the Baptist Church, Margate
  5. Frederick George Fuller b. 1887 Thanet. (staying with Christiana Batchelor in 1891- This child may or may not belong to Henry as he was in prison for 5 years from 1883)

    Christiana Batchelor, Sarah A Fuller and Frederick Fuller 1871 census, Margate

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I found the following in the Kentish Gazette 26 April 1870 referring to Henry and his mother Mary Jane Fuller (also known by her middle name):

Margate:
Assaulting a Constable-At the Borough Magistrates sitting on Wednesday; a widow named Jane Fuller was charged before George E Hannam; T Blackburn and J.B Flint Esqrs with assaulting Police Constable Chas. Harlow in the executing of his duty, on the 16th inst. Fined 10s and 8s 6d costs, or 14 days hard labour.

The son, Henry Fuller, had been brought up on the previous Monday on charges of being drunk and assaulting police constables Millgate and Harlow in the execution of their duty, and sentenced to 7 days for the first and 21 days for the 2nd offence.

So I guess his mother set an example then!

In 1871 Henry and Elizabeth Ann were living at 4 Journeymans Court, Church Alley, Margate. Source: Class: RG10; Piece: 991; Folio: 69; Page: 30; GSU roll: 838723:

  1. Jesse Fox (Head), Widower, age 74, Mariner, born Margate
  2. Henrietta Lewis (House keeper) Widow, age 63, Charwoman, born Margate
  3. Henry Fuller (Lodger) Married, age 27, General Labourer, born Ash nr Sandwich
  4. Elizabeth A Fuller, (Lodgers wife), married, age 26, Charwoman born Margate

April 7th 1880: Henry in trouble again!
Henry was tried in court before F.J Smith Esq, Recorder. The committing magistrate was R. Wood Esq. Margate:
Henry Fuller, age 38 Labourer, once before convicted of Felony and 5 times summarily convicted.
Offence: Obtaining by false pretences 17s. 6d. the money of John Francis Brown at St John the Baptist on March 1st 1880.
Verdict: Guilty of obtaining money by false pretenses.
Sentence of the court: 3 calendar months hard labour HM Prison Canterbury.
Degree of Instruction: N (cannot read or write).
Date of warrant: 1880 March 2nd; Received into custody March 3rd 1880.
Tried April 7th 1880.
Particulars of previous convictions charged in the indictment and proved in court:
Margate;

Dec 28th 1872 stealing 10s. (C.J.A) 3 months
Source: A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace Series: HO140; Piece number: 50; Record set: Crime, Prisons & Punishment; Category: Institutions & organisations; Record collection: Prison registers; Collections from Great Britain.

Census 1881: 37 Victoria Rd, Margate, Kent:

  1. Henry Fuller (Head) married, age 38, General Labourer, born Ash, Kent
  2. Elizabeth Fuller (Wife) age 37, born Margate, Kent
  3. Sarah A Fuller (Daughter) age 5, born Margate, Kent
  4. Elizabeth Fuller (Daughter) age 3, born Margate, Kent

22nd Oct 1888: Henry can’t keep out of mischief….
Tried before the Recorder. The committing magistrate: HF Hermitage Esq,  Margate:
Henry Fuller age 46, Labourer.
Offence: Stealing a silver watch and chain and other articles value: 2. 8s. the property of Sarah Jane Edwards at Saint John the Baptist Margate. (N.B Sarah Jane Edwards being his step-daughter! Or perhaps his illegitimate child.)
Verdict: Guilty
Sentence: 6 Calender months: HM Prison Canterbury.
Degree of Instruction: N (Cannot read or write.)
2nd August 1888 (Date of warrant and received into custody.)
Tried 22nd Oct 1888 found guilty of Larceny after a previous conviction.
Previous:
28 days; 19th April 1870 (drunk and assaulting police) Margate.
7 days 8th Feb 1872 (unlawfully depositing soil) Margate. (NB I wonder if soil meant garden soil or perhaps human soil?!)
3 calender months 31st December 1872 (stealing 10s.) Margate.
21 days 4th Oct 1876 (assault) Margate.
1 month 30th Oct 1879 (want of Sureties) Margate.
3 calender Months 7th Apri; 1880 (obtaining 7s. 6d. by false pretences) Margate sessions.
5 years Penal servitude 4th April 1883 (House breaking) Margate Sessions.
Source: A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace, Series: HO140, Piece number: 104, Record set: Crime, Prisons & Punishment, Category: Institutions & organisations, Record collection: Prison registers, Collections from Great Britain.

Margate, 1891 census, 2 Sollys Cottages, Margate, Kent. Source: Class: RG12; Piece: 727; Folio: 78; Page: 11; GSU Roll: 6095837:

  1. Henry Fuller (Head) married, age 46, General Labourer (employed), born Margate, Kent
  2. Elizabeth Fuller (Wife), age 42, Charwoman, born Margate, Kent
  3. Elizabeth Fuller (Daughter) age 13, Scholar, born Margate, Kent
  4. Bertha Fuller (Daughter) age 7, scholar, born Margate, Kent

In 1897 his daughter Sarah Ann Fuller married and gave her fathers profession as ‘General Dealer’ A euphemism perhaps?! Her husband’s fathers profession was given as ‘horse dealer’

Sarah Ann Fuller and George Harris marriage cert 1897 Margate

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Jan 5th 1904: Henry still up to mischief age 66:
Tried before A.J.Tassell, and others. Committing Magistrate: H.B. Hammond, Esq, Ramsgate.
Henry Fuller, age 66, labourer.
Offence as charged in the Indictment: Feloniously stealing one sheet and four waistbands, together value 4s., the goods of the Guardians of the Poor of the Isle of Thanet Union, on the 5th December 1903, at Minster, Thanet.
Jury’s verdict: Guilty.
Sentence or Order of the Court: Three months hard labour.
When tried: Jan 5th 1904.
Degree of Instruction: Imp (can read and write imperfectly) .
Date of Warrant: 8th Dec 1903.
When received into custody: 8th Dec 1903.
Particulars of previous convictions charged in the Indictment and proved in court:
Borough of Margate Petty Sessions, 31st March, 1896, two months hard labour. 

Previous:
3 months hard labour, Margate Petty Sessions, 28th December, 1872 (stealing money).
3 Month hard labour, Margate Quarter Sessions, 7th April, 1880, (obtaining money by false pretences).
5 years penal servitude, Margate Quarter Sessions, 4th April, 1883 (house breaking).
6 calendar months hard labour, Margate Petty Sessions, 22nd Oct, 1888 (stealing a watch and chain).
1 Month hard labour, Margate Petty Sessions, 9th December, 1800 (stealing a coat).
1 Day, Margate Petty Sessions, 11th March 1906 (Stealing theatrical articles).
2 Months hard labour, Margate Petty Sessions, 31st March 1896 (stealing a meat safe).
And 15 summary convictions for drunk and disorderly, assault, using obscene language and threats.
Source:  Henry Fuller Age 66,  Labourer, Birth year: 1838, Year: 1904 5th Jan, Place: Kent Court St Augustine’s. A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace Series: HO140 Piece number: 232, Record set: Crime, Prisons & Punishment Category: Institutions & organisations Record collection: Prison registers Collections from Great Britain.

1901 census for Henry Fuller and Elizabeth (both in the Workhouse at Minster.)

Ash, Kent genealogy and family history resources
Margate, Kent genealogy and family history resources
Life in Kent Gaols before 1877
The Session House and Gaol, Canterbury

William Edwards and Maria Harcour’s children and census records

William Edwards and Maria Harcour had the following children:

  1. Mary Christiana Edwards bp. 12.9.1830 (St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession given as ‘Labourer’; Abode: Margate).
  2. Thomas Edwards bp. 9.6.1833 (St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession given as ‘Fisherman’; Abode: Margate) d. 1874 (Margate).
  3. Henry William Edwards bp. 10.4.1836 (St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession given as ‘Mariner’; Abode: Margate) d. 1913 NB. He was also known as William Henry Edwards.
  4. Elizabeth Ann Edwards bp. 24.6.1838  (St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession given as ‘Fisherman’; Abode: Margate) d. 7.11.1838
  5. Richard William Edwards bp. 12.7.1840 (St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession given as ‘Shrimper’; Abode: Margate) 
  6. Elizabeth Ann Edwards b. 1843 (Thanet) bp. 12.3.1843 (St John the Baptist Church, Margate, fathers profession given as ‘Mariner’; Abode: Margate)
  7. Sarah Ann Edwards bp. 23.12.1849 (St John the Baptist Church, Margate; fathers profession given as ‘Labourer’; Abode: Margate) d. 1872

Census Records:
1841 census: HO107; Piece: 468; HO107; Piece number 468; Book: 6; Folio: 6; Page no: 5
St John’s College Cottages, St John Baptist, Margate, Isle of Thanet:

  1.  William Edwards, age 30. Labourer, born Kent
  2.  Maria Edwards, age 30, born in foreign parts
  3.  Thomas Edwards, age 8, born in Kent
  4.  Henry Edwards, age 5, born in Kent
  5.  Richard Edwards, age 1, born in Kent

1851 Census: Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1629; Folio: 256; Page: 4; GSU roll: 193530.
1 Kidman Row, Margate, Kent:

  1. William Edwards, (Head) age 46, Shrimper, born: St Lawrence, Kent.
  2. Maria Edwards, (Wife) age 40, born: Bombay East Indies.
  3. Mary C Edwards, (Daughter) age 21, Servant, born: Margate, Kent.
  4. William H Edwards, (Son) age 15, Shrimper, born: Margate, Kent.
  5. Elizabeth A Edwards, (Daughter) age 2, Scholar, born: Margate, Kent.
  6. Sarah Edwards, (Daughter) age 1, born: Margate, Kent.
    Kidman Row
    Rule by Margate Board of Health 1851-1858 (discusses Kidman Row).
    1852 Map of Kidman Row, Margate.
William Edwards and Maria Harcour census 1851

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1861 census:  Class: RG 9; Piece: 535; Folio: 107; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542657.
4 Cuthills Cottages, Margate, Kent:

  1. Maria Edwards, Head, Widowed, age 52, Laundress, born: Margate, Kent.
  2. Henry Edwards, Son, unmarried, age 25, Labourer, born: Margate, Kent.
  3. Elizabeth Edwards, Daughter, unmarried, age 17, born: Margate, Kent.
  4. Sarah Edwards, Daughter, age 11, born: Margate, Kent
    (Living next door is Thomas Edwards, Head, married, age 26, Labourer, born Margate, Kent and his wife Sarah Jane, age 25, Laundress, born Hampshire.

1871 census: Class: RG10; Piece: 991; Folio: 109; Page: 7; GSU roll: 838723.
2 Ventnor Lane, Margate, Kent: (all the below are sharing the same house)

  1. Thomas Edwards (Head) married, age 36, Labourer out of employment, born Margate, Kent.
  2. Sarah Edwards (Wife) married, age 25, Laundress, born Southsea, Hants.
  3. Ann Bow (Head), Widow, age 59, Laundress, born Margate, Kent.
  4. Eliza Bow, Daughter, unmarried, age 30, Domestic Servant, born Margate, Kent.
  5. Alfred Bow, Son, unmarried, age 20, Painter, born Margate, Kent.
  6. Thomas Bow, Son, unmarried, age 18, Waiter, born Margate, Kent.
  7. Maria Edwards (Head), Widow, age 61, Charwoman, born Margate, Kent.
  8. James Brandell (Head) married, age 76, Pensioner, born Woolwich, Kent.
  9. Ann Brandell (Wife) age 65, born Margate, Kent.

Note that in the 1861 and 1871 census Maria gives her birth as Margate, Kent. 

Maria died in 1877 (buried in St John the Baptist churchyard, Margate) and William died in 1858 in Thanet.

Margate genealogy, local and family history resources

William Edwards, a shrimper from Margate and Maria Harcour from Bombay

William Edwards was a fisherman, shrimper and labourer and lived in Margate, Kent. He was born 22nd October 1804 in St Laurence, Kent and baptised in the local church 18.11.1804.

William Edwards baptism 1804 St Laurence, Kent

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He married  (by banns) Maria Harcour, 26th August 1829 at the Parish Church of
St John’s in Margate. The wedding was witnessed by the Parish Clerks rather than family or friends. Perhaps this indicates an opposition to the marriage?  Or perhaps the Parish Clerks were the only people that day who could write and were therefore the only people allowed to sign as witness to a marriage where two people signed by their mark?

Maria Harcour and William Edwards marriage cert

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According to the 1851 census, Maria was born in Bombay, East Indies c.1811 (the 1841 census notes her as ‘Foreign born’).

I’d like to know who Maria’s parents were? Was Maria British? How did she end up married to a shrimper in Margate?

I searched the IGI for a birth and found no reference for a ‘Maria Harcour’ born in India. Maria signed her mark on her marriage certificate so I have to assume she was illiterate (or perhaps pretending to be in order not to show up her illiterate husband..?!) and so her surname may have be misspelt or misheard by the writer.

Perhaps her name was Har Kaur?

Her daughter’s birth certificate (Sarah Ann Edwards) gives Maria’s surname as ‘Hacker’. I’ll need to order her other children’s birth certificates to gain a consensus but in the meantime, I searched the IGI for anyone called ‘Maria’ or ‘Marie’ (omitting a surname) born in India between 1800-1815.

I found the following with surnames similar to ‘Harcour’ or ‘Hacker’:

  1. Maria Hawker, Birth Date: 05 Aug 1815 Christening Place: Quilon, Madras, India, Christening Date: 30 Sep 1815, Father’s Name: Frederick Hawker, Mother’s Name: Mary.
  2. Maria Margaret Harcourt, Birth Date: 24 Apr 1806, Christening Place: Bellary, Madras, India, Christening Date: 13 May 1806, Father’s Name: Hillary Harcourt, Mother’s Name: Margaret Torriano.
  3. Maria Hasker, Birth Date: 12 Mar 1816, Christening Date: 27 Nov 1825, Christening Place: Vizagapatam, Madras, India, Father’s Name: William Hasker, Mother’s Name: Cawder Bee.

None of them show birth dates in Bombay but perhaps Maria was born in Bombay and christened in Madras (a trading post and naval base). These are the closest references I could find in both name, place and date. 

I don’t think ‘Maria Margaret Harcourt’ is our Maria as Maria Margaret was married in 1832 to a John Stow and her father was given as Capt Hillary Harcourt Torriano of the East India Company Madras Engineers. I’ve as yet been unable to find further info on Maria Hawker and Maria Hasker. If one of these two are Maria Harcour then she would have wed age either 14, or 13 respectively. William wed age 24.

It was possible for a girl to marry at 12 and a boy at 14. Even if the parents disagreed with the decision, there were legal ways in which the marriage could take place such as calling banns in a different parish to that which they belonged.

Perhaps Maria had been married before and wed in her married name? The marriage entry says she was a spinster but it’s known that sometimes info given at time of marriage may be incorrect for any number of reasons. 

At the time of Maria’s birth The East India Company held rule in India. Her father could have been any among civil servants, military personnel (most regiments served in India at some point), mariners, medical staff, chaplains, railway workers, law officers, merchants, planters, free mariners, and missionaries.

Only a small number of British military men stationed in India could bring their wives and many men would marry in India (both English and local women) though marriage with Indian women became less common after 1830.

Some young British women would travel the 5 months to India to try and bag themselves a husband amongst the East India Company men. Perhaps Maria’s mother was one of these hopefuls. 

I guess it’s possible Maria may have been Indian as some British took Indian servants back to Britain where many Indians laboured under European names. She may have been a ‘ayah’ ( domestic servant) or a nanny. According to the National Archives:

“This arrangement was attractive for many Asian women, as ayahs were not generally paid a wage, whereas travel of this kind involved a fee. However, although they were promised their passage back home, often they were left stranded, especially in London.”

 Domestic slavery continued in India into the 1840’s:

I think I’ll have to do a bit more digging before I can come to any conclusions. If anyone has any further suggestions I’d be interested to hear them.

William Edwards and Maria Harcour’s children and census records

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Emmanuel Noble and Emma Julia French- children and census

Emmanuel Noble and Emma Julia French had the following children:

1. Albert Emmanuel Noble: b. 31/1/1881 – d.1938. (Baptism record here – Parents named as Emmanuel and Emma Noble, 3 Alma Terrace, Chatham, father: Sailor, R.N) 
2. Ernest Valentine Noble: b. 1884 – d.1947. (Baptism record here – Parents named as Emmanuel and Emma Julia Noble, New Brompton, father: ropemaker)
3. Ada Emma Noble b. 1855 – d.1944
4. Florence Edith Noble: b. 1890 – d.1972 (Baptism here)
5. Daisy Ethel Noble: b. 1891. (Baptism record here – Parents named as Emmanuel and Emma Julia, 9 Russell St, Chatham, father: mariner)
6. Charles Frederick Noble: b. 23/7/1893. (Baptism here)

1891 census
HMS Pembroke.
RG12, Piece: 667, Folio: 44, Page: 35, GSU Roll: 6095777:
List of the officers, crew, royal marines and all other persons NOT on board on the night of Sunday, April 5th 1891:
– Emmanuel Noble, married age 36, Roper, born Dorking, Surrey.

1891 Census
9 Russell St, Luton, Chatham.
RG12/665, Reg District: Medway, Sub Reg District: Gillingham. ED Institution or Vessel 44, Folio: 58, Page: 17:
1. Emmanuel Noble (Head) age 35, Officer R.N, born Dorking, Surrey.
2. Emma Julia Noble (Wife) age 32, born Dorking, Surrey.
3. Albert E Noble (Son) age 10, Scholar, born Sheerness, Kent.
4. Ernest V Noble (Son) age 7, Scholar, born Chatham, Kent.
5. Ada Noble (Daughter) age 5, Scholar, born Brompton, Kent.
6. Florence E (Daughter) age 11 months, born Portland, Dorset.

1901 Census
3 East St, Luton, Chatham.
RG13/728, Page 7, entry 41:
1. Emmanuel Noble (Head) age 45, Rigger HM Dockyard, born Dorking, Surrey.
2. Emma Julia Noble (Wife) age 42, born Dorking, Surrey.
3. Albert E Noble (Son) single, age 20, Baker Journeyman Breadmaker worker, born Chatham, Kent.
4. Ernest V Noble (Son) single, age 17, Ship fitter labourer of iron worker, born New Brompton, Kent.
5. Ada Noble (Daughter) age 15, born Portland, Dorset.
6. Florence E (Daughter) age 10, born Chatham, Kent.
7. Daisy E Noble (Daughter) age 9, born Chatham, Kent.
8. Charles F Noble (Son) age 7, born Chatham, Kent.

1911 Census
1 Mill Cottage, Mount New Road, Chatham.
Class: RG14, Piece: 3908. Schedule Number: 359:
1. Emmanuel Noble (Father) age 55, married 21 years, 6 children born (all still living) Naval Pensioner, born Dorking in Surrey.
2. Emma J Noble (Mother) age 53, born Sheerness, Kent.
3. Ernest V Noble (Son) age 27, single, Engine Fitter Ship Construction (worker) born New Brompton, Kent.
4. Daisy E Noble (Daughter) age 19, single, Manageress to bakers confectioners, born Chatham, Kent.
5. Charlie F Noble (Son) age 17, single Fitters, Improver Engineering (worker) born Chatham Kent.

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